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Are your HOCL-45 and HOCL-90/45H angle clips DSA compliant?

Are your HOCL-45 and HOCL-90/45H angle clips DSA compliant?

Question: Are your HOCL-45 and HOCL-90/45H angle clips DSA compliant?

Answer: YES.

Please see the HOCL-45 & HOCL-9045H Submittal Sheet.

The submittal sheet includes both cut sheets showing overall dimensions and a representative image of the clips. As well as excerpts from California DSA IR 25-2.13 REV. 11-09-17, specifically pages 34 & 37.

Part #: HOCL-45

If you look at the second figure on “Sheet No. 4.10” titled “Bracing Wire”, it shows the 45-degree angle clip requirements for bracing wire.
½” TYP from edge to center of the hole where the ceiling wire is tied (HOCL-45 meets this spec).
½” MAX. U.O.N. from edge to center of the hole for the 3/8″ expansion anchor (HOCL-45 meets this spec).

Here are images of the measurements mentioned above as well as a mic. on the 12 gauge thickness:

Part #: HOCL-90/45H

If you look at the first figure on Sheet No. 4.21 titled “Option 1″, it shows a 12 GA X 1″ wide angle clip with a hole for a 3/8″ dia. expansion anchor (HOCL-90/45H meets this spec). It also shows ½” MAX. from edge to center of the hole for a 3/8″ expansion anchor (HOCL-90/45H meets this spec).

You may ask, is DSA compliance acceptable if there is no ICC-ES report?

The specifications called out in DSA IR-25-2.13 are met or exceeded by our clips as is evident in the measurement images posted above.

According to DSA IR A-5 “Acceptance of Product Materials, and Evaluation Reports”, Section 1.1 states “Products, including alternate materials, must have a valid evaluation listing/report issued by a recognized evaluation agency.”

Section 3. VALID LISTINGS…

Section 3.1 “The product or material must comply with CBC. Evaluation reports may not be acceptable if the product does not comply with applicable DSA amendments contained in CBC and/or applicable DSA IRs, or Bulletins.”

Section 3.3 Goes on to list the acceptable evaluation reports in order (ICC ES, IAPMO ES, OSHPD, COLA, NOA). If none of those are available for the product, the last bullet states:

* Other product certification bodies that are certified to be in compliance with ISO/IEC 17065:2012, “Requirements for Bodies Certifying Products, Processing and Services” (for projects submitted under the 2016 and 2013 CBC) and ISO Guide 65, “General Requirements for Bodies Operating Product Certification Systems” (for projects submitted under the 2010 and 2007 CBC).

In essence, in the absence of a third party evaluate report, as long as a product complies with the requirements of CBC, DSA IRS and bulletins, and can be traced with a marking, any certification body that is in compliance with the standards mentioned above may certify compliance.

Furthermore, To the best of our knowledge, no manufacturer has a current ICC-ES report on similar angle clips.

Hilti’s X-CC 45 is not included in their ICC report located here: https://www.icc-es.org/wp-content/uploads/report-directory/ESR-2184.pdf. This report is for powder-actuated ceiling clip assemblies only.

The report listed on their product page for the X-CC 45 is only for:

“Ceiling fastening system Applicable base material Fastener types Recommended installation tools Wire type Section X-CX C Concrete, lightweight concrete over metal deck X-C27 DX 351-CT with Pole Tool Pre-tied to ceiling clip or provided by others 3.3.2 X-CX ALH Concrete, lightweight concrete over metal deck, steel X-ALH 22, X-ALH 27, X-ALH 32 DX 351-CT with Pole Tool Pre-tied to ceiling clip or provided by others 3.3.2 Eye-lag screw Wood, sheet steel EL WS, EL S, EL SD Telescopic Screw Ceiling Tool Provided by others 3.3.3”

Tomarco, Powers/DeWALT do not have an ICC-ES report on similar angle clips either.

Your ICC-ES report lists two different holding values, ASD and LRFD. What do these two acronyms stand for?

Question:

Your ICC-ES report lists two different holding values, ASD and LRFD. What do these two acronyms stand for?

Answer:

Our ICC-ES report ESR 3135 refers to two methods of calculating the strength of a fastener in steel. ASD (Allowable Strength Design) and LRFD (Load & Resistance Factor Design). Both ASD and LRFD are structural design terms and are used by structural engineers to determine allowable loads under different structural design criteria.

ANSI vs. ICC-ES, what’s the difference?

ANSI vs. ICC-ES, what’s the difference?

About ANSI:

ANSI is an acronym for American National Standards Institute.

ANSI is a private non-profit organization that administers and coordinates the U.S. voluntary standardization and conformity assessment system. Its mission is to enhance U.S. global competitiveness and the American quality of life by promoting, facilitating, and safeguarding the integrity of the voluntary standardization system. ANSI is the official U.S. representative to the International Accreditation Forum (IAF), the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) and, via the U.S. National Committee, the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC). ANSI currently has offices in New York City and Washington, DC.

ANSI serves as administrator and coordinator of the United States private sector voluntary standardization system.

The Institute oversees the creation, promulgation and use of thousands of norms and guidelines that directly impact businesses in nearly every sector.

About ICC-ES:

ICC is an acronym for International Code Council.

The ICC-ES was founded in 1994 as a nonprofit organization dedicated to developing a single set of comprehensive and coordinated national model construction codes. The founders of the ICC are Building Officials and Code Administrators International, Inc. (BOCA), International Conference of Building Officials (ICBO), and Southern Building Code Congress International, Inc. (SBCCI). Since the early part of the last century, these nonprofit organizations have developed the three sets of model codes used throughout the United States. ICC follows ANSI norms guidelines (standards).

ICC-ES reports are what most structural engineers use when specifying fasteners and materials for jobs.

In essence, ICC-ES takes the appropriate standards written by ANSI and works out a testing program for a product; then applies industry safety-factor standards (calculations) to the test results. Finally, ICC-ES performs factory inspections to make certain that proper quality control standards are being applied.

This makes it convenient for engineers who need to spec a product, as they can trust that the values given in an ICC-ES evaluation report follow industry standards for quality and safety .